Segment Finding Beauty in your scars with Host HelenZanele - HIV Stigma & Discrimination

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At the end of the day, it's not the virus or disease that kill people, it's the discrimination and hate behavior and attitude towards it. It's how people are treating people who are living with HIV in AIDS and how they are making them to feel small and to feel as if they are not good enough. Welcome to our fifth episode of Finding Beauty in Your Scars under Unspoken Truth Family. This is your beautiful host, Helen Zanele Chico. In this episode, we are going to talk more about HIV stigma, discrimination, statistics of it, and how a lot of young women have committed suicide because of this virus, and how those who are coming from a poor background have been judged, and how some of them are not lucky to find relationships because of the background and how they are living with HIV and AIDS. While I was doing my research wanting to find out more about this virus and how it has affected a lot of people and how the statistics have been since the starting of it, I have found out that it has believed or proven that by the global HIV and AIDS epidemic, that HIV has become one of the most worse serious health and development challenges. Since the first case were reported in 1981, approximately 84 people, 84 million people have become infected with HIV since the start of the epidemic. Today there are approximately 38 million people currently living with HIV. And tens of millions of people have died of AIDS related causes since the beginning of the epidemic. That shows that HIV has been there for quite some time now. But it's sad how um it's still the rate of it, it's still continuing because of the lack of education when it comes to it. I wouldn't say the lack of education when it comes to it, but I will say how our government has neglect has neglected ukfundisaabantu um about this virus. You know, um, I have interviewed one of the ladies who are living with HIV, and she said to me that if our if we can come together as a community or people who are living with HIV and start teaching young people regarding this virus, um we'll find out that it's not that bad, and we'll find out that our our community they are ignorant because um they chose to be ignorant, but they're ignorant because there is no deeper education when it comes to this thing. You know, there is no um they are no longer uh topics in our schools recently when it comes to law to these things. So I would say that our government has neglected this virus, um, these teachings when it comes to to this topic, you know. It's said that a lot of young people are committing suicide, especially to those who are living with HIV, because you will meet someone, and then you meeting that person, you want to share your status with that person. And because you know your in knowledge when it comes to HIV, he will feel as if you infect him, you know, or her. Only to find out when you take your medication, when you stick to your medication, less than six months taking your medication, and when you go back to a clinic, remember after six months, you go back to the clinic to check how the medication is treating you and how it's reacting to your body. Is your body reacting well to your medication? Um, are you still being able to take medication um and all that? In that period of your medication, there are high chances of you um having a viral law that is lower than undetectable. What that means, that means if you sleep with someone without using a condom, there is no way that you're gonna infect your partner. You know, there is no way that you're gonna make your partner to be HIV positive as you, as long as you're still taking your medication. So it said how we we we are getting cyberbullied because of our status. I remember when I I came out to someone that that was close to me, um, because I needed someone that I can talk to regarding this virus. That person he went as far as cyberbullying me, you know, because of my status. That was in 20. I found out about my status in 2015. I think that was in the beginning of me taking my treatment and still being confused. Oh, woody, am I gonna die? Am I gonna live longer? Am I gonna survive? How are the people going to treat me? I'm gonna be, am I gonna have kids? You know, I don't I don't have kids as yet, but it has been an emotional journey to go through. Imagine me coming out of that time, you know, in a community. I wouldn't say that is well known, but I'm coming from Davidton. Davidon is known as a very fast gusses, one of our gusses that are fast and all that. But I believed that I wouldn't say smart, but educated people like me wouldn't judge me when they find out about my status. Only to find out Ugutsi, I was actually wrong about that. So many people are scared of coming out or speaking boldly when it comes to their statuses because of the t because of the treatment, discrimination, and stigma that they are getting from communities, families, friends, and relationships. I'm gonna emphasize, especially when it comes into our communities, it's so sad how our communities are just treating abandon living with HIV. You know, I wish they can be more um educations when it comes to those things, you know, such as how Abababa Zae, how can I, for example, cancer, you know, but there is no such when it comes to HIV, it's very limited to find education when it comes to HIV. When you go when we do um campaigns in one of the clinics, I'm in the will talk about drugs, um domestic violence, uh bullying. I'm not saying lasers in the laser, they are wrong to talk about. No, we still need those kind of education when it comes to those things. But how about we we give more people knowledge when it comes to HIV? Um, or go to kissing someone doesn't mean you're gonna have HIV. Hacking someone doesn't mean that you're gonna have HIV. Sharing uh a face cloth with someone doesn't mean you're gonna have HIV, you know. Uh you get HIV if you sleep with someone who who's HIV positive and they're not taking medication. Or let's say, for example, I slept with a guy only to find out that he was sleeping with me alone, the guy that who infected me with HIV. He was he wasn't sleeping with me alone, but he was also sleeping with other person, and sleeping with him without using condom, unfortunately, it has made me to end up hate being HIV positive. Those are the kind of things that we need to teach people when you sleep with someone not using a condom and that person they're busy sleeping around, there are high chances of you to be infected with this virus, you know. Not when you are kissing someone and you're gonna have HIV. It's not like that, you know. It's sad how young people, when you come out um regarding your status, they will start looking at you in a different form or in a different way. With what you are living with this virus, you bohamba ula with every Tommy Dick and hair out there. I'm gonna find out it's it's not like that, you know. The stigma around it, the discrimination around it. Imagine someone uh coming out woody, he's or she's HIV positive, and that person is it's I get called that strong as me, you know. Then Loyo Munduloya, right in them, they commit suicide because of them stigma and discrimination that they are getting from Abantu, who are judging them. So, me today in this topic, I felt like I need to teach more people regarding this virus and how poor communities are getting ill treatment, how our economic is um contributing into into into this virus, you know. Uh it has made a lot of people not to to want to be into relationships because you don't want to be rejected, there's nothing as painful as being rejected. I've been rejected a lot into relationships because of my virus. I've been judged a lot because of my virus, you know. I can say that currently I found someone that when I told him about my status, even though we don't talk much about it, but the support that I get from him, it's something else that actually there are people who are knowledgeable when it comes to those to this kind of virus. So we still need people like him who teach our fellow brothers or sisters that dude come on now, it's not that bad as you think. As long as this person is taking their medication, then there is no way that you you're going to get infected, you know. So I feel like we still need to teach people because living with this virus has made a lot of people to doubt themselves and to believe that they are not deserving of love, care, respect, and support. You know, it's so sad of how when you're living with this virus you feel worthy when uh Agmelang Utolutando, when uh Agmelang Utole the support that other people are getting. Like Uzoba Nelia, illifu elim nyama this dark cloud that is surrounding you, the moment when people they find out about your status, it's just so sad. There's a lot of progress when it comes to treatment of it, but no progress when it comes to the mindset on how we are treating people who are living with this virus, and that kind of treatment it has led to a lot of as I've mentioned before, it has led to a lot of people, especially young people, to end up committing suicide. Others they will start um isolating themselves, you know, they will start to treat themselves differently. Um, others they'll go through depression, mental breakdowns. I went through that. It was so high, and that time I was still in college. I went through that, it was so painful, you know. I didn't have any support. I didn't have any support in those weeks or years of me finding out about my status. It was so hard. Then the after-effects of the treatment, God, it was so painful. I will have DJVs, I will have I will hallucinate, I will sleep. Like ukewa poop, uya wa impe tene. That's why you will get. Imagine you not getting that full support. You are dealing with this alone personally in your personal space. And Mao Yanga, apparently, you want to get support, you're not getting that support. So it's just so sad how this whole thing is just people are treating it, you know, and building this wall because they are trying, because you are trying to protect yourself. I remember I'm gonna talk much about me because I'm going through that. I wouldn't say I'm oh, but I went through that, but even if when I went through that, I still go through it even today, you know. I built this wall because I was trying to protect myself. I was trying to to not allowing people to come into my space and tr and start treating me. Already I was treating myself as if I felt myself. I felt my parents, I felt my family, you know, and already it was just too much for me. I was getting annoyed, I was getting hey guys. I nearly said a very starting word, but no holetata, you know, and yeah, it was so difficult. It was so difficult. So when I was busy with my research and finding out about the statistics, interviewing people, wanting to zabo z when it comes to this virus. Let's start about the statistics. The stats of South Africa shows that about 8.5 million people in the country are HIV positive, like 8.5 million people in the country in South Africa are HIV positive. How sad is that? And I believe that there is still more on that, you know, there is still more on that, and SA has the most significant number of people enrolled on ARVs, which is a good thing that it has most people they are taking their treatment, most people they are trying to live a healthy and beautiful lifestyle, you know. General Risinga Malule, the statician, also mentioned that the number of those living with virus has increased from from estimated 3.6 million in 2022. And we are already in 2023. Like it has increased um estimated 3.6 million in 2022 to 8.45 million in 2022. Hauteng being the most guys come on, Hauteng being the most populated province followed by Gwazul Nadal. So in other words, in Hauteng, we still need more teachings when it comes to those things. And places such as Kazet and I'm still asking myself, Uguoti Our Health Department when they see this that Mabatlala Panzi, what is it to make this whole thing to not do um go higher and higher? Because the numbers they continue to grow, the numbers they continue to go crazy. From 3.6 million to 8.5 million people who are living with this virus. And what does our government say? What are we doing as a community to make um to make how can I put it to bring a change to young people to know about this thing, you know? Going through all these researches and findings, it shows that we still have a long way to go, you know, when it comes to educating our communities. As I've mentioned before, Uguoti, our communities, they still need to get teachings when it comes to those things, you know. They still need to get teachings when it, you know, especially youth, um and teenagers about HIV. What I found out also is the high rate of stigma, discrimination to people who are living with HIV, especially in the rural areas. Remember that houting is the most highest, and it followed by Gwazul Natan. Subly discrimination such as gossip 38.1%, um not treating them with respect, 20.7%, and keeping a distance. And as why are you keeping distance HIV? Because it's not as if you're gonna get infected. 18.2% from people who are living with HIV and AIDS that shows HIV-related stigma as the negative beliefs, feelings, and attitude towards people living with HIV. It causes dis discrimination and creates barriers that negatively impact HIV prevention. Impact HIV pre prevention. In other words, it makes a lot of people to be scared to go to the clinics. Also, in our clinics, we we are getting a very horrible treatment when it comes to our status. We are being treated so badly in such a way that we are seven or we are clinically because of how our nurses are just treating us. Imagine I may say um a nineteen year old man or woman we are at line. As soon as when I find her out of you are HIV positive, I won't um not all the nurses, but some of the nurses and we are shouting sense, he's HIV positive, please uh cancel him. You see how sad this thing is of people being difficult, of them coming out and sharing their their status because already they've been mistreated in the healthcare services, and that's where you were supposed to find comfort and love. Oh, it's okay. I'm HIV positive, I'm going to the clinic, I'm going to get the help that I need emotionally, mentally, and physically. But no, you're not gonna get that. Instead, you're going to be mistreated. Already your self-confidence is being destroyed because of that. Then it's gonna be difficult for you to come out. That is why uh this discrimination and stigma has created a lot of barriers that negatively impact HIV prevention. It's just so sad that we are living in the world where we are just treated as if we are nothing. We are just treated as if we are deserving of the of that, you know. Even though HIV treatment centers are available in certain parts of South Africa, um a lot of people they are not taking advantage of the services because of the shame they feel and the fear of exposure, you know. So many clinics, but it's difficult for you to go there because of the shame and the stigma around it, and the fear of exposure. Stigma has prevented them from being receiving uh. HIV prevention medications such as ARVs which would otherwise help manage the disease and will also prevent you from uh transmission and improve upon their quality of life. It's just so sad a lot of people have stopped taking their medication because of that, especially women, they've stopped they've stopped taking medication because of that. I remember once ex of mine when I'm telling you that I'm HIV positive, I'm telling you because I'm fun filele sorry, but I want you to know even though when my viral load is lower than detectable, nifun owazu to us fala gop because after three months I go to clinic to review, I go to clicks to get my medication, and sometimes the medication they make they make you to feel moody. You eat, you don't eat, like you just feel like as if your world is collapsing. So me telling you, I just want you when those moments come, you are able to handle me. But a lot of people they have stopped taking those medications because of how they're getting the treatment, you know, and how they are just not getting the support that they're getting. Let's go to mental health institutions. HIV-related stigma negatively affects the mental health of people living with infection. In South Africa, women and adolescent girls living with HIV are at higher risk of low self-estim. Remember what I said um when we were busy discussing about that. In South Africa, women and adolescent girls living with HIV are at a high risk of low self-esteem, depression, and thoughts of self-harm, such as committing suicide, associating yourself. So sad of how a lot of people who are in a mental health institution are the ones who are living with HIV. Because we are you don't get enough support, you your mental health just go in a way that you don't know how to even handle it, you don't know how to handle yourself, you just don't know. I remember I was asking a friend of mine, it's a guy, and I'm like, Google here, would you date someone who's HIV positive? And he was like, Yes, I would, but I would never sleep with that person without using a condom. And I was so glad that he mentioned that, you know, because that it shows Uguotsi, he still wants to prevent himself, he still wants to keep himself clean. Because I don't want to be infected. How are you gonna get infected if that person takes their medication? How are you gonna get infected if that person they are trying by all means to keep themselves in a in a good way? We still need a lot of education when it comes to those things. We still need a lot of things. Education when it comes to life. It's so sad that I'm a black movie. Like I'm getting emotional about this because my fellow sisters, the ones that I was attending clinic with, and Sababo in the clinic, when mang booze and abo they're saying they've committed suicide because of the pressure that it was getting to them. It's just so sad. We still need education when it comes to this. I was asking someone also who's a doctor, and I'm like, do our um health providers have something to say when it comes to this HIV? And he sent me this health care provider HIV stigma awareness. Study shows that HIV related stigma and discrimination in in healthcare settings contribute to keeping people away from accessing HIV prevention. And reading this part, I remember while I was in clinic, we were just talking about this. And someone mentioned in some clinic, I'm a nurses, but saying is uh treatment. The ones that we are getting it for free when they are selling them, especially who don't want to come to clinic to test, you know, or even if that person find out to test deal and status sake, it comes positive. We are sabu clinic than uzala owners who sing medication, and people they are making money out of that. So this thing study shows that HIV-related stigma and discrimination in in healthcare settings contribute to keeping people away from accessing HIV prevention, care, treatment services, and also prevents them from adopting key preventive behaviors. There are three main causes of HIV-related stigma in health facilities. Imagine where I'll continue reading this, but imagine where you're supposed to get help, you are not getting any help because of stigma and discrimination. It's so sad. There are three many causes of related stigma in health facilities. The lack of awareness among healthcare providers of what stigma looks like and its negative effects on patients, healthcare provider fear of contracting the disease, Angas Ganjan, and the association of HIV with amoral behavior, the lack of awareness among healthcare providers. So, me reading this, I reached the conclusion, our healthcare workers they still need training when it comes to treating patients who are living with HIV because um sabagan janwh, umtu who's HIV positive, ozo za also landication like how how how you how you're getting scared of that person. And when you want to test that person, remember you you took an utata inner lead and we am you supposed to wear your gloves, isn't it? I feel as if those nurses who are dealing with HIV, they they also need to go through debriefing. Because I believe that they are dealing with different uh people, especially when you find out about your status. We are saber, you feel somehow. So now but they still then the healthcare workers they need to go for debriefing and be trained, be cancelled who's HIV positive, it doesn't mean that it's gonna infect you all somehow. Because this it's saying um the lack of awareness among healthcare providers of what stigma looks like. As I've mentioned before, someone goes to the clinic and they want to find out about their status. Unfortunately, they found out that they're HIV positive, unness one who's far away. Woobong is saying he's HIV positive. Instead of you calling that nurse private, imagine Uzbong senior and the shame on his face, that that cloud is surrounding him, and imagine how are they gonna treat him in the community? Imagine that to compare to HIV-related stigma, it is important for health facilities in South Africa to create an environment where healthcare providers acknowledge that stigma exists in their facilities, especially in the black communities. If only they can see what they're adding on to the stigma and discrimination of people who are living with HIV. And as a result, develop uh strategies and action plans to build stuff and management support for stigma reduction and elimination. So our healthcare workers they need to start um treating patients, not only patients who are living with HIV, but every patient with love and care. Because some of the people they end up not going to the to the clinic of the the treatment that they are getting from the health facilities. Like for example, you go to the clinic, they're saying your appointment is at 8 o'clock. Uzawhala 8 clinic was saying you are saying okay, the appointment appointment time is at 8 o'clock. Maybe you are just estimating, maybe I'm gonna sit there for 2 hours. Uh is cut in for that two hours. What I've experienced in in the public clinics is that you will sit more than two hours. Or feango eight a clinic and um from eight until two o'clock. And when you're trying to voice out your voices, they're giving you attitude. Some of the nurses that will tell you what an yuk tumang go to lale nava fana, oko kumgata, how did you hey guys? Things that we are saying in our in our healthcare facilities when it comes to stigma and discrimination, it's just so sad. That's why this article is saying to combat HIV-related stigma, it is important for health facilities in South Africa to create an environment with hack where healthcare providers acknowledge that stigma exists in their facilities, and as a result, develop strategies and action plans to build a staff and management support for stigma reduction and elimination. They need to acknowledge their mistakes, they need to acknowledge that we are not doing right, they need to acknowledge that we are the ones that are making people. We are we are contributing to the discrimination and stigma in our communities. We are contributing to people not wanting to come to the clinic and take medication or come and seek for help. They need to acknowledge their mistakes, you know. They need to acknowledge Uguzi they are also in wrong. And this article is also talk about educational anti-HIV stigma in um interventions, humanizing HIV, involvement of people living with HIV in stigmatizing activities, utilization of social workers like us, you know. Um it it has a lot of things, but okay, we did talk about health and um our healthcare facilities, they need to have like once in a week where they do workshops. While I was growing up in my primary life, I remember they used to have those workshops in the healthcare facilities or at school, like you choose what kind of workshop that you want to attend. Funny enough, I was attending the one-of-hiv, not knowing that one day I will need this kind of workshops, but lately they are no longer those kind of workshops, you know. Educational anti-HIV stigma interventions. To facilitate HIV prevention in South Africa, educational anti-stigma interventions need to be implemented with a focus on providing information about the stigmatized condition of people living with HIV, correcting misinformation and negative cultural beliefs and attitudes about the disease, and rectifying inaccurate stereotypes or myths. So we still we still know we still need those workshops where our healthcare facilities will teach people about this virus. We'll teach young women, young men, um, our families, our our our colleagues. We still need more education regarding this. These interventions may take several forms, including national television, radio, finding beauty in your skies podcast. Me doing this, I'm trying to send an awareness of what we people who are living with HIV are going through. The stigma and all that, you know. Um newspapers, they still need to talk about this. Um every December we have World Aids Day, but we are no longer celebrating that. I don't know because it's a lack of knowledge or because there's the people they see there's no longer a need for them to do that. I don't know. I don't know, but I believe that we still need more education when it comes to that. As I've mentioned, televisions, radios, Facebook pages, um, live things that are happening. We still need those kind of things, you know, campaigns and how the stigma and discrimination is just the consequences of it, and how people they start like treating themselves as if they are not good enough. We will still need more education when it comes to those things. We still not need those things, you know, or regular educational campaigns, as I've mentioned, that discuss and provide information about the actions and behaviors that are stigmatizing the consequences of stigma experience experienced by people living with HIV and the steps that can be taken in to eliminate eliminate HIV-related stigma so as to promote prevention efforts. While educational anti-stigma interventions generally help to address public stigma of HIV, they uh they have also been found to reduce self-stigma, improve stress management, and boost self-esteem. If you remember, I did talk about how uh the stigma and discrimination makes one to have low self-esteem. So this kind of awarenesses, this kind of education will also boost to people who are living with HIV. Others bazalonayu. Others bazalonaya. I remember earlier this year a friend of mine called me. He was crying, he was like, I need you to help this young lady, you know. I'm like, okay. He's he's like, okay. So I think it was a family that was living with HIV. She will go to the clinic, but she wouldn't take the medication or the treatment, and that it ended up of her um having a full-blown no HIV in AIDS. And she was like, please talk to her and tell her that you are living with this virus, and you've been living with it, and you've been taking your medication, and you are also healthy. While in the process of me trying to have a meeting settle with that lady, I found out that she's dead. And what hurt me the most it was that she died because her sister she doesn't she she doesn't, I don't know, have enough knowledge regarding this virus and the community also they were also judging them. So you see how we still need the education and we still need to teach people about this virus, especially people like us who are living with it. It's doable. Living with this virus doesn't mean you're not gonna get married. Living with this virus doesn't mean what you're not gonna have kids, living with this virus doesn't mean that you are less important. Living with this virus doesn't mean that um you're not gonna have someone who will love you. Living with this virus doesn't mean Uhuzi, you are not good enough. So I wish our black communities can start teaching themselves, doing research about this virus, you know, treating people in a way Uti naway when you're f when you're going to find out about it. You would want to be treated in a proper manner. So me making me this um episode, I'm just highlighting the things that people who are living with HIV what they are going through. I never had a enough support system, but I told myself that I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight until the end. I told myself it was I'm not gonna allow the discrimination and the stigma in my community to make me feel less of a woman that I am the rejection that I got from boys, the harsh words that I got from my own mother. You know, I continue to take care of myself, I continued taking the treatment. And I remember when I told my boyfriend, I told him because I was trying to push him out to push him away because I was already used to getting rejected, or someone will say, No, it's fine, I don't care about your status, then in the long run, we inside tooth. In the long run, he doesn't pick up your code or broke, or he will remind you of your status as if you are not being reminded every night when we are taking that treatment. So I'm trying to show or I'm trying to make an awareness that our communities, our schools, our churches, yes, our churches. Some of our churches that will tell you to stop taking your treatment because God is going to heal you. Yes, we know that God's going to heal us. But there mustn't uh plant that mindset in Modinzaban. God helps the one who helps himself. So you not taking a medication and not praying, not taking good care of yourself. You think God will just heal you like that. It's not working like that. Take your medication, be teachable about those things. Especially if you you just find out about your status now. I would say associate yourself with people or when I would see they are going to help you in this journey. I was helped by my late mentor. She was also living with HIV, and she was the one who was teaching me about this whole thing. Then in the long run, I I met uh people such as Aus Kimu who are living with HIV. I was listening to Nosy Bailey's podcast. If you know Nosy Belly's podcast, um you can follow her on Instagram and she's living boldly about her life, and I remember in the podcast that she was being interviewed by Mbumilit Raba, she mentioned that when she found out she never told her mother about her status until I think it was last year or last of last year when she told her about her status. I don't remember. And she even mentioned that um her husband, the one that she's married with right now, big up, I'm Sheila, and she was like to him, Man to be positive. I'm living with this, I'm not a good woman. And the husband was like, I don't care about that. I'm here to love you, I'm here to to treat you as a queen that you are. So it shows that there are still people out there who love you with your status, who take care of you, you know, who'll appreciate you, you know, who'll never treat you. And our communities, they need to. I believe that if we don't continue with awareness, the rate of people living with HIV will continue to grow. And it will grow even further to the to the poor communities because there is a line between poverty and HIV. I think I did mention that before. Um, mostly that link, mostly that link affects women because of them low educational levels. We did mention that before, low marketable skills, lack of knowledge or information regarding the risk of infection, and then lack of resources to act on this knowledge. Lack of resources such as campaigns, education in our radios, TVs, and all that. So I'm pleading with our communities that they must teach themselves when it comes to this virus. People who are living with HIV are not as bad as it is. As I've mentioned, Utsi, it's not the virus or the disease that kill the that kill people, but it's the stigma and discrimination around it. It's how our families are treating us because of this virus. It's how our colleagues are bullying us because of that. It's how we have neglected this whole thing, it's how our health facilities just stopped doing the workshops regarding that. We need to be teachable when it comes to this virus. In closing, may we not treat each other in such a way that you wouldn't want to be treated. May we respect each other's each other's flaws. May we be a community that it's united and that it's teachable when it comes to this virus. May we love one another. May we not make each other to feel small or to feel as if we are deserving of this. May we stay united. Our health facilities start putting plan of action on how you're gonna start treating every patient with love and respect. Our health government, can we go back to that thing of teaching about this virus? I hope um this topic will bring a change in my community. And I hope it'll bring a lot of teachings in in in young people and my fellow brothers and sisters that it's not the end of the world if you are living with this virus. You're still gonna get love. You're still gonna get your forever yenna, you're still going to be happy. So, in closing, may we love one another, may we treat each other with love and respect. Remember, we are all equal and this and the same in the eyes of the Lord. With that being said, may God of love and God of peace give you joy. May you get all the healing that you need. May the positive energies allocate you, wishing you peace, joy, love, and happiness. This is your beautiful host, Helen Vanilla Chico. And this is the same place where we are sharing our pain. Thank you so much for your support. Thank you for clicking on those links and making sure that we are getting the full support that we are getting. We don't take your support for granted. We don't take your love for granted. I wish you joy, peace, love, and happiness.

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